Spring 2009 TV Cartoon Roundup: PART 1

It’s time for a new season of crap. Thankfully, Spring is looking to be decidedly less crappy than the past couple of seasons! We can’t promise you that we won’t make some bad picks (we’re looking at you, Rideback) but here’s the first installment of our Spring 2009 previews.

Sengoku Basara


Exactly as stupid as I expected. Capcom’s series of seriously campy brawlers featuring incredibly flamboyant versions of famous Warring States Period generals and a minimal number of girls becomes a seriously campy cartoon. You know you’re in for an intellectual television program when the show opens with a pretty dude clad in bright blue armor riding into battle on a horse with reins and a saddle styled like a motorcycle, spouting Engrish and wielding six swords at once. If you like shows about guys yelling at each other and shooting outfit-coordinated energy auras, you are in the right place, because that’s basically all that happens in this episode. Characters appear, spout their trademark lines from the games, then fling themselves into the sky like Dragonball and exchange completely ineffective blows. Make no mistake: this show is pure fanservice.


Amusingly, while the art style still isn’t anything particularly interesting, the show manages to look a lot more attractive and feature much more fluid animation than the animated sequences in some of the games. And there are a few moments where the animators get to play up exactly how campy and stupid the whole thing is, but that won’t sustain it for very long unless you’re like already a fan of the characters. And since they’re reusing character gags within the same episode, I figure even that will wear out its welcome before these twelve episodes are up.

-Jeff

Queen’s Blade


Actually even stupider than I expected. Not that I was expecting much; the show’s based on a series of cheesecake gamebooks, so you can subject your fellow tabletop game nerds to your particular favourite flavour of Japtoon jugs during your nerd sessions. Oh, and the animation studio and staff involved all primarily have pornography, Plastic Little and Ikkitousen seasons to their names. But Queen’s Blade manages to slide under even the low-bar that Ikkitousen set.

This show’s about as close as you can get to pornography while still meeting cable/satellite television standards. The heroine spends more time topless than not in this episode, as she battles a monster-girl with giant Jello rabbit-ears. Said monster-girl uses her prehensile hair to squeeze her breasts and attack by lactating acid. I repeat: lactating acid. Oh, and there’s also some bullshit involving the heroine’s creepily-possessive sister and a bandit treasure hunter and some angel girl who always seems to arrive late with the exposition and show us her underwear. Whatever, nobody’s here for the plot.

Every shot that’s not filled with tit is filled with ass, and the heroine pisses herself in terror twice in one episode (take that, Ikkitousen)! She finally defeats the monster girl by slamming her own, now-armored tits into monster girl’s, causing monster’s tits to balloon to enormous sizes from the acid back-up (I guess?) and then explode in a massive fireball. It’s probably worth watching this episode just for that scene, though I don’t think I’ll stick around for any more.

-Jeff

Basquash!


While most Macross fanboys ate up Macross Frontier like nude Lynn Minmay illustrations, we here at Colony Drop recognized it as the pandering dreck that it actually was. Kawamori is something of an exquisite hack, who’s managed to put his hands into a couple of great projects (Macross Plus, Macross 7 Dynamite), but the hope is that the influence of Thomas Romain tempers whatever batshit crazy garbage Kawamori tries to throw into this cartoon about Bigfoot Basketball — basketball with giant robots.

If one thing is certain after watching the first episode, it’s that this series will be absolutely gorgeous. I’m not just talking about animation quality, as that can always change as budgets fluctuate, but the design work throughout is top notch. From the Bigfoot mecha with cars for cockpits, to the detailed city backgrounds, to the eclectic character designs, everything here oozes style and it’s clear Romain wanted the series to have a unique look.

The show isn’t without its downsides — there’s the obligatory moé girl (and she’s in a wheelchair — sugoi!), the big-breasted sidekick a la Yoko from Gurren Lagann (but this one is brown) and the main character Dan looks like he walked out of a generic Shonen Jump series. It’ll be interesting to see if they manage to pull off something interesting or if it turns into a pandering suckfest like Kawamori’s last project, Macross Frontier.

-Sean

23 Comments

  1. lelangir: To hear Jeff tell it (he is my brother), Basquash! is actually very enjoyable in a campy way, minus the “I would not want to be watching this when my friends/parents/social worker/parole officer walk by the screen” aspect of Queen’s Blade or the “this show will run out of gags/animation budget in three episodes” aspect of Sengoku Basara.

    Still, my pick (and presumably Jeff’s) for Best Anime of Spring 2009 is preemptively Dragon Ball Z Kai, and to be honest, not much is going to sway me on that front. It’s a known quantity, trimmed to an ostensibly watchable length, that one could ostensibly watch with friends over food and drink and not feel like an oversexed manchild.

  2. lelangir: i imagine that the official CD pick of the season/year/decade will be the new mazinger series

  3. kransom: Yeah, I just finished watching the first Mazinger episode, and I’m revising my vote to suit. All K-ON! bullshit aside, this season is rapidly kicking into gear.

    Unlike most of the CD crowd, I’ve never had much of a robot fetish (I mostly watched REAL ROBOT shows for the character drama, which would instantly explain why I couldn’t stand to watch most REAL ROBOT anime made in recent memory). But I knew as a SUPER ROBOT show directed by Giant Robo’s Imagawa, Mazinger would hardly be a waste of 22 minutes, even at its most underwhelming.

    I sat down expecting 22 minutes of mild sentimental chuckling, and instead my jaw never left its initial gape of laughter. I’d seen all of Giant Robo, of course, including the Ginrei specials, but it had never quite dawned on me just how loopy the combination of Imagawa’s madness and Go Nagai’s sideburn badassery would actually BE.

    Mazinger embodies what I feel all anime should strive to be, on some level — incomprehensible but memorably spectacular (and also complete bullshit). This show delivers, and HOW. An excellent complement to DBZ Kai. (We’ll see how Basquash! and Shangri-La hold up as subsequent episodes come out.)

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    lol @ the Kawamori bashing and Romain loving.Guess you guys here are really tsundere for Kawamori’s works.

    And I have to say the general direction of little girl = moe character worth quite a compliment.

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  6. Baka Anon: Tsundere is the wrong word for it. Kawamori does some gorgeous stuff, but he’s generally got a terrible, TERRIBLE head for storytelling. His best work (Macross Plus) isn’t even attributable to his own greatness, but to that of CO-DIRECTOR SHINICHIRO MOTHERFUCKING WATANABE. Seriously. His name should be on the DVD case instead of Kawamori’s.

    And seriously, there’s NO excuse with the crippled little sister in Basquash!. The show is certainly shaping up well, don’t get me wrong, and one dumb little trope certainly won’t be enough to ruin it. But it still astounds me how anyone EVER found the crippled-sister trope adorable. Every time I see a teenage girl in a wheelchair, I just want to push them down a flight of stairs.

    Anonymous: That’s the point. If you’re the type to get bent out of shape out of the trolling allusion that your beloved GLORIOUS NIPPONESE ANIME, BEFORE WHICH ALL WESTERN ANIMATION IS PIG DISGUSTING, is nothing more than a “cartoon”, then you’re obviously one of the people we seek to make fun of here at this bright pink anime blog. You kids really are part of a dialectic of suck with the Narutards/Gaiafags/ANN “journalism” you love to make so much fun of — bitter and insular, demanding instant gratification and unable to muster intellectual content without it getting spammed off the page by trolling and Taiga. (God, I hate Taiga.)

    If you can call us on our bullshit cleverly and intelligently, we will gladly publish your views without hesitation. That’s all we really want out of you guys; there are plenty of other dumb anime forums/blogs for limp-wristed nerd slapfights. If all you can do is fall back on memes and catchphrases the moment your sensibilities are challenged, then you only serve to prove our point that dialogue about Japanese rape cartoons needs a new direction — preferably a crash vector with Sydney, Australia, to open hostilities with those damned complacent Feddies.

  7. “And seriously, there’s NO excuse with the crippled little sister in Basquash!. The show is certainly shaping up well, don’t get me wrong, and one dumb little trope certainly won’t be enough to ruin it. But it still astounds me how anyone EVER found the crippled-sister trope adorable. Every time I see a teenage girl in a wheelchair, I just want to push them down a flight of stairs.”
    This is pretty much bullshit.
    Thanks for expressing your loud opinion, now we can’t have a crippled little girl on anime EVER, and since when is that a trope really? Since CODE GEASS? Or are you reading too much on Tvtrope again?

    And sorry, Kawamori is the name that should be on all Macross-related products till now sorry, yes, even Macross II. Because he was the man who helped the production staff to actually finished the whole thing despite the whole bad rap it got in Nihonland.

    Say what you want about Kawamori I don’t care, the man did shows that I like and admire (Macross Plus, 7 and Aquarion), I have every reason needed to support the man, thank you.

  8. And sorry, Macross Plus is by far SK’s best work, at least in my opinion. It should be M7 which SK wrote the storyboard, designed the silly VFs and imagined the whole setting.
    M+’s characters are super lacklusters compare to the M7’s cast. Personality-wise, only Isamu stands out.
    Fire Bomber songs are also far better than the techno-mix style of Sharon Apple.

    Hell, I’d go down there and say Sheryl Nome’s songs are better than Sharon Apple’s. Call me an idiot, but these songs actually have souls and emotions in them, unlike Sharon Apple’s songs.

  9. “Thanks for expressing your loud opinion, now we can’t have a crippled little girl on anime EVER, and since when is that a trope really? Since CODE GEASS? Or are you reading too much on Tvtrope again?”

    You really don’t watch many Japanese cartoons, do you?

  10. “You really don’t watch many Japanese cartoons, do you?”
    Nope, I usually only watch mecha anime. Sorry. I’m not that much of a nerd to go watch all those stuffs I’m not interested in.
    So yeah, please tell me more about how damaging crippled little girl in mecha anime is to the plot.

  11. ^ And before anything else is done, please:

    1. Don’t link me to TVtrope thank you.
    2. Don’t tell me to go watch more Japanese cartoons to see more stereotypical examples.

  12. Kaze no no reply?
    That pretty much nails it.

    You guys judge a character based on their annoying stereotype, not how she was played out. Last time when I watched Aquarion, there’s a crippled little girl who played both roles in story telling and piloting (by the end of the series) and I didn’t see how she was annoying.

    If the moefag are annoying because they love things that look moe-ish to their minds, you guys are the complete opposite, who hate things that look moe-ish to your minds despite know nothing of the characters outside of their appearances. Both sides are two faces of the same coin. Pathetic.

  13. “So yeah, please tell me more about how damaging crippled little girl in mecha anime is to the plot.”

    Gladly!

    The crippled little sister is among the most obnoxious of tropes because it’s one of the most pathetic attempts at a storytelling device ever devised. It’s an EXTREMELY pathetic attempt to elicit sympathy for the sibling of the little sister without requiring the sibling to actually BE a sympathetic or morally upright character.

    This is a particularly disingenuous device because the sister in question is usually little more than a hyper-feminized girl-shaped object rather than an actual character. Beyond the obvious fetish-object capacity, her sole purpose is to affirm that the (male) sibling in question is a decent fellow at heart (regardless of what the guy has ACTUALLY done) based purely on ignorant conjecture and insipid naiiveté. All too often this smacks of the rather pronounced chauvinist cultural sentimentality to revive the hyper-submissive girl-child ideal woman that Japanese men find inexplicably attractive. Still, that feminist conceit aside, I’m more worried by the technical implications.

    Nunnaly in Code Geass is an excellent demonstration of how stupid this cliche is in practice. Lelouch won’t shut up about how everything he does, he does to create a more just and loving world for Nunnaly, but to all but the most overly sensitive twits, he’s not fooling anyone. Stuck-up, callous, dishonest, manipulative, and not particularly clever (most of Lelouch’s great successes revolve around the writers making something terrible happen to the people who corner him…hi Shirley), we are nonetheless asked to believe that he’s really a noble, altruistic soul at heart because he has a painfully dumb little sister who is specially designed never to question her brother’s means and motives.

    Also, on a technical note, the “invalid sister” has been around for a long time. Variants of it permeate numerous shojo works, and of course there was that one Cowboy Bebop episode (which actually handled it well; the sister wasn’t much to speak of, but her brother was believable). Hell, even Yu-Gi-Oh pays tribute to it. Nunnaly merely represents a revival of the trope as part of the larger moe movement.

    So why do I care about this in anime, of all media? Because anime can and SHOULD be better. Robot fights don’t really do it for me; I like to see shows that try something daring rather than throwing meat to the dogs in Akiba. Mazinger Z, the original Gundam, hell, even Evangelion — all of these shows tried something new with an established genre, even if they inspired no end of disappointing derivatives. But with the technological feasibility to make more anime for a variety of specialized markets on the cheap (as well as the decline of cinematic anime), anime today is arguably more commodified even compared to its toyetic kiddie heyday in the ’70s/’80s. Why innovate when you can pander and get guaranteed results? I like to see shows that at least make an effort to expand my horizons rather than serving as an animated vending machine for my nerd-fetish appetites.

    That reminds me, I think I should revisit Code Geass at some point, at the very least to deconstruct the characters. That show was terrible in a truly fascinating way.

  14. @Ben: Yeah, after your wall of text, I guess you should better go back to watch Code Geass.
    Because at least Nunally is moe (because she serves as deconstruction to the trope), unlike Coco which is generic crippled little sister who isn’t near as moe or adorable.

  15. Hell awaits…
    I skipped the introduction, because these are pretty much your own deduction to the trope, and I have to say I found better examples to the trope just by watching mecha anime (Aquarion, Vandread, Godannar…).
    A well-used plot device is good, no matter what you say about it.

    But now here goes:
    “Also, on a technical note, the “invalid sister” …blah blah blah… trope as part of the larger moe movement.”
    – So you means Yugi-oh could pay tribute to the trope, Nunnaly served as a revival of the trope, but Coco herself can’t be the one that created to counter the trope? She’s not just your normal little sister, she knows what is going on despite going nowhere, she know what her brother is doing and she doesn’t act clingy to her bros everytime the camera shows her. She’s the completely opposite of Nunally, superior to her bro, smarter than her bro and is doing something we don’t know with her computer every night, so yeah, not your USUAL CRIPPLED LITTLE SISTER right there.

    So why do I care about this in anime…blah blah blah… my nerd-fetish appetites.
    – I call pretty much call Miyuki being the decontrustion of the forced fanservice girl in the first two episodes. She’s actually useful at the moment and is actually the one who explains what is going on this world, I see nothing wrong with that. Slutty mechanic that loves mechas in my mecha anime? Yes please, a good character with big breast is still a good character. Long used and stereotypical? Who cares?
    And please tell me how SK doing a sport show out of the blue isn’t daring, even with the Nike sponsoring, considering the sport mecha genre is pretty much dead, the most recent one was IGPX and… the Iron Leaguer, I dunno if Cyber Formula does count.

    And sorry, nothing in Evangelion (or any GAINAX anime) is new or worth mentioning. It’s complete horse shit that inspired nothing but angsty and emo children to the future genre, if you want originality, go with Zambot 3 and Ideon, they were the TRUE DECONSTRUCTIONS of the super robot genre.

    That reminds me, I think I should revisit Code Geass at some point, at the very least to deconstruct the characters. That show was terrible in a truly fascinating way.
    -Then just wait and see how Basquash!’s Coco hold out before whining about a character being stereotypical despite knowing nothing about her.

  16. “Nunnaly served as a revival of the trope, but Coco herself can’t be the one that created to counter the trope?”

    General probability points to “no”. Subversion hurts the bottom line. In today’s increasingly commodified TV anime, you’re going to be hard pressed to find subversion of any kind.

    The show’s only one episode deep. There’s plenty of time for her (I refuse to refer to the little sister by name, for that only strengthens her as a particularly nauseating device) to fail to be of any real significance in developing the sibling to which she is attached.

    “She’s actually useful at the moment and is actually the one who explains what is going on this world, I see nothing wrong with that.”

    Exposition isn’t a special skill, it’s a basic competency of storytelling, and one that’s all too often mishandled by the kind of hackery that anime is prone to. I am amused by the fact that she’s unmistakably black in a Japanese medium that is slowly approaching actual political correctness in depicting that ethnicity, but I don’t think she’ll be any more than cutesy shonen window dressing. This certainly isn’t to say she’ll be obnoxious or the show will be bad; it’s a bit too early to make that call for something as relatively weird as Basquash!. But while the show is colorful, I very much doubt it is aimed towards subversion.

    “Slutty mechanic that loves mechas in my mecha anime? Yes please, a good character with big breast is still a good character. Long used and stereotypical? Who cares?”

    In case it hadn’t dawned on you, you are a perfect example of the kind of doe-eyed uncritical fetishist we’re here to troll. This ship is sinking, but I got my tits and that’s all I demanded! Huzzah for waifus! Who needs thought when I can turn on a box and marvel at the colors?

    “And sorry, nothing in Evangelion (or any GAINAX anime) is new or worth mentioning.”

    Four words: The Wings of Honneamise.

    And on the subject of Evangelion — back in the day I used to trash-talk Eva because of the annoying knockoffs and pseudointellectual apologists it inspired. But there’s no way to ignore its historical significance as a more uncomfortable take on the themes first explored in Ideon. (Eva also took a few flying leaps away from the lingering super-robot aesthetics of Ideon in terms of mecha design and the significance of the monster-of-the-week battles.) Where Ideon culminated in a bloodbath with a relatively affirmative “this isn’t REALLY the end of everything” angle, Eva had a relatively subdued apocalypse with a more unsettling conclusion about the nature of oblivion versus life on earth — “sure, life on Earth sucks, but the alternative’s not much of an improvement; I guess I’ll take my chances with self-determination”. The characters were also decisively subversive, if polarizing, (for their personality quirks, rather than issues of being terribly written…hi Geass) with none of them being truly sympathetic to general consideration (except maybe Rei, who was just doing her job and tended to do it well. That’s professionalism, and that’s quite the virtue for a girl her age!).

    I still can’t say I’m truly fond of the show; for all its pioneering semi-intellectual (as opposed to pseudo-intellectual; there’s SOME actual substance to be had in there) psychobabble wankery, the degree to which it whores its various fetish objects out (and I don’t use that term purely in the sexual sense, either) still makes it hard to wax poetic about the show with a straight face. So no, I don’t really feel like apologizing for Eva or for Gainax in general. (Except for Honneamise, which is still one of the greatest anime films ever made.) But to write the ENTIRE Gainax catalog off as insignificant is nothing less than fallacious. When a whole cottage industry has sprung up around vinyl statues of Asuka taking a shit, there’s SOME kind of real subcultural force at work there.

    And yes, I love to hear myself talk.

  17. I’d also like to add that Ride the High Country was the TRUE DECONSTRUCTION of the Western genre and therefore nothing in Unforgiven (or any Clint Eastwood Western) is new or worth mentioning. Thank you for your time.

  18. “General probability points to “no”. Subversion hurts the bottom line. In today’s increasingly commodified TV anime, you’re going to be hard pressed to find subversion of any kind.”
    This is pretty much your egoic self talking stereotypical AGAIN. I will just wait, see and ENJOY the thing while it lasts.

    “But while the show is colorful, I very much doubt it is aimed towards subversion.”
    Please watch GunxSword for a nice example. Don’t forget to buy the whole set!

    “But there’s no way to ignore its historical significance as a more uncomfortable take on the themes first explored in Ideon. (Eva also took a few flying leaps away from the lingering super-robot aesthetics of Ideon in terms of mecha design and the significance of the monster-of-the-week battles.)”
    Please watch Zambot 3, which is even older than both Eva and Ideon, then think again.
    Mecha design of EVA? It’s ultrawoman in armor. Nothing to see there, while Zambot 3 is the first big samurai robot, what’s not to love? And no deep cool references about the Bible, just straight meat SUPA ROBO and MONSTA OF THE WEEK action, Tomino-style.

    “In case it hadn’t dawned on you, you are a perfect example of the kind of doe-eyed uncritical fetishist we’re here to troll. This ship is sinking, but I got my tits and that’s all I demanded! Huzzah for waifus! Who needs thought when I can turn on a box and marvel at the colors?”
    Uh-huh, with that mindset, I won’t be able to enjoy stuffs like Godannar or most GAINAX anime. Go read this again:
    “Yes please, a good character with big breast is still a good character”
    I like Miyuki because she’s a nice and easy-to-relate-to character, and not because she has big breasts. waifus and shit? Hell like I care. I don’t care if she a thousand tons of breasts and ass, I’d like her if she contributes to the plot and is good character. The rest is nice eye candy for mecha fan, I mean SUPER ROBOT fan.

    “But to write the ENTIRE Gainax catalog off as insignificant is nothing less than fallacious”
    Considering most of the stuffs they did (Daicon, Gunbuster, Evangelion, Gurren Lagann) are nothing inventive of sort, yeah, I’d say that. Originality already died back in the 80s.

    “When a whole cottage industry has sprung up around vinyl statues of Asuka taking a shit, there’s SOME kind of real subcultural force at work there.”
    That probably means Haruhi and Lucky Star have SOME kind of real subcultural force there.

    “And yes, I love to hear myself talk.”
    Brotip: Talk less, watch more. Also, frak your big pretentious ego, thank you for your time. Next stop: Zambot 3 and GunxSword.

    Oh wait, P.S:
    “I’d also like to add that Ride the High Country was the TRUE DECONSTRUCTION of the Western genre and therefore nothing in Unforgiven (or any Clint Eastwood Western) is new or worth mentioning. Thank you for your time.”
    Holy shit, is that true? Too bad, I’m not a much of fan of the western genre to care and whine about it.

  19. >”Holy shit, is that true? Too bad, I’m not a much of fan of the western genre to care and whine about it.”

    Of course you’re not: you’re a textbook third-generation anime fanboy. You simply don’t have *time* to be interested in things outside the otakusphere, which, it would appear from your comments, includes at the very least Westerns and the concept of irony.

    >”I don’t care if she a thousand tons of breasts and ass, I’d like her if she contributes to the plot and is good character. The rest is nice eye candy for mecha fan, I mean SUPER ROBOT fan.”

    Am I the only one here who is a bit disturbed by this image?

    Seriously though, can physical appearance be entirely separated from the totality of the character? By designing the a female character in a certain way, surely you say something about how you view that character (or even about how you view all women), no? In a visual medium, all aspects of a character (body shape/size, expression, clothing, hair, speech pattern, tone of voice, style of language, personality, etc.) should add up to a consistent whole. Where one aspect — let’s say, for instance, “a thousand tons of breasts and ass” — is exaggerated to cartoonish proportions, that tells us that this character is in some way cartoonish and it subverts any more serious aspects of their personality. That’s the price you pay for your “eye candy”.

  20. “This is pretty much your egoic self talking stereotypical AGAIN. I will just wait, see and ENJOY the thing while it lasts.”

    Perhaps I will be proven to be in error, but that doesn’t mean I’m obliged to watch it. But it’s nice to see that no matter what I do, you’ll ignore the actual implications of what I submit (contemporary anime isn’t trying anything new) and instead of going for the thoughtful response (well, here are some contemporary anime that DO try something new, and let me describe exactly what they do…), you go for the textbook /a/ response (butthurt blogfag is butthurt, lalalala I can’t hear you!)

    “Please watch GunxSword for a nice example. Don’t forget to buy the whole set!”

    Again, put your money where your mouth is and describe for me how GunxSword subverts convention. Tell me how it does something old in a notable new way, or introduces something as yet unseen in prior anime. The bluff of a witty dismissal only works if you’ve convinced the other party that you have the rhetorical advantage — and I can bluster for days when I’m pressed.

    “Please watch Zambot 3, which is even older than both Eva and Ideon, then think again.
    Mecha design of EVA? It’s ultrawoman in armor. Nothing to see there, while Zambot 3 is the first big samurai robot, what’s not to love? And no deep cool references about the Bible, just straight meat SUPA ROBO and MONSTA OF THE WEEK action, Tomino-style.”

    Further proof that you ARE, in fact, an undiscerning fetishist sent easily into a mindless froth whenever you’re presented with an opinion you don’t like. This is certainly not to say that most of the CD contributors don’t share your fetish (Dave springs readily to mind) — merely that they can disagree with each other without the childish luxury of outright dismissal, and that they can recognize crap for crap even when the robot fights ARE gorgeous. You haven’t really convinced me that you can do the same.

    “Considering most of the stuffs they did (Daicon, Gunbuster, Evangelion, Gurren Lagann) are nothing inventive of sort, yeah, I’d say that. Originality already died back in the 80s.”

    By your super-robot-centric definition of originality (in that you fixate on the robots themselves, which is understandable but unhelpful in this consideration), there was never much room for originality since Tetsujin 28. The farthest leap you could go from there and still be considered “original” under your terms would be Mazinger Z, where they started piloting the robot from within rather than via remote control.

    And again, your opinion would be perfectly acceptable if you said that you simply didn’t care for most of Gainax’s works. But you outright assert that Gainax is insignificant to the history of anime culture, and that requires an unacceptable stretch of the truth as rooted in reality. Like them or not, they have set many of the standards for the modern anime industry’s engagement with the dorks that love it (at conventions and elsewhere), and they definitely created a significant Evangelion following both in the fandom AND in the industry. In many ways, perhaps, Evangelion’s themes were natural extensions of the Tomino take on robot anime. (But not the robots. I’m not quite sure Tomino would have taken them quite that far in his own work, as combination bio-organism and Freudian nightmare.) But Evangelion was, if nothing else, a significant vehicle for perpetuating the exploration of those themes. Sort of the fertilizer to the saplings, if you will. (Ha! I beat you to the Evangelion = shit metaphor, so suck me long and deep, beautiful!)

    “That probably means Haruhi and Lucky Star have SOME kind of real subcultural force there. ”

    Unfortunately, yes. They’re still young yet, but I am fully prepared to make that concession. I don’t like either of them, but I won’t deny the obvious. That’s your department, anyway.

    “Brotip: Talk less, watch more. Also, frak your big pretentious ego, thank you for your time. Next stop: Zambot 3 and GunxSword.”

    The beautiful thing is, I don’t NEED to watch half of these shows, because on some level, they’re already watched for me. I live with Jeff, you see (he is my brother, and yes, before you ask, we are totally gay for each other.), and most of the stuff I fail to watch, he watches for at least 2-3 episodes before he chucks it aside in anger like the raging elephant that he is. He’s probably actually SEEN at least bits of GunxSword, though I’ve never asked him about it. But I’m sure he would have let me know if there was the real possibility that I would enjoy it, because we know each other’s sensibilities well, and I trust his anime judgments more than anyone else’s. Certainly more than yours, of course.

    Your sputtering indignance gives me strength. And more importantly, it gives CD pageviews.

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